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Meet the Heckler, Santa Cruz's new trail-ripping electric mountain bike

What is the Heckler?

Santa Cruz has burst onto the electric mountain bike scene with a promising new e-mtb, the Heckler. The California-based mountain bike company has developed a bar-raising, trail-ripping e-mtb designed to smash your notions of what you're capable of on two wheels. At a glance, the Heckler looks like a rugged and capable mountain bike anyone would love to ride, but upon closer inspection of this e-mtb's component specs and design, we absolutely know it is.

What's it made for?

The Heckler's geometry and design is based on the Bronson, Santa Cruz's widely popular and fun-as-heck trail bike, but optimized for the e-bike platform that takes its capability to the next level. It loves to climb, it excels on the downs, and it handles like a true, playful trail bike. The Heckler is made for aggressive trail riders that want to push their limits and break new ground by taking more runs, covering more distance, and having more fun.

An All-Powerful Trail Bike

So what makes the Heckler such a great electric mountain bike? The Heckler specs speak for themselves. Even without the motor, this is one seriously capable machine. 

Santa Cruz starts this build off with their high-end CC carbon frame, providing an incredible stiffness-to-weight ratio that works perfectly for the added stresses of e-bike power. 

The lower-link VPP suspension system provides 150mm of finely tuned travel and the e-bike specific 160mm fork gives you all the confidence you could possibly want. 

Its 27.5 inch wheels fitted with beefy Maxxis 2.6" tires give you a great balance off all-terrain traction and agile flickability. The 65.5-degree head tube angle and shorter 445mm chain stays keep the handling refined while also providing plenty of capability when you open it up downhill.

Electric Super Powers

The Heckler is already a great mountain bike, but the benefits of the Shimano STEPS E8000 motor really take this e-bike over the edge as an absolutely killer ride that knows no bounds. 

First, the CC carbon frame keeps it's sleek look by integrating the E-8035 504wh battery into the downtube so there's less to see and less to worry about. At 6.4 lbs, the motor is one of the lightest in the e-bike field, helping the Heckler earn its place as one of the lightest electric mountain bikes available. 

There are several different levels of assist to choose from and you can easily tell the motor how much assistance you want via the simple switch, making it simple to have the appropriate levels for your specific terrain or goals. 

All this means you'll be riding faster, longer, and farther than ever, and that sounds pretty darn fun to us.

Four build kits to choose from

The Heckler comes in four build kit options and two colors. While certain kits have more highly-specced components, each one includes SRAM four-piston brakes, 200mm rotors, Eagle drivetrains, RockShox Super Deluxe piggyback rear shocks, and e-bike rated, burly suspension forks, like the Fox 36. The Reserve e-bike wheelset is standard on the X01 and XX1 builds.

Available Colors for the Santa Cruz Heckler CC

Santa Cruz Heckler CC in Black and Gold

BlackOUT

Santa Cruz Heckler CC in Yellow and Black

Yellowjacket

Santa Cruz Heckler CC R
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Heckler CC R

The Heckler CC R sports the most basic component package of the 4 bike lineup, but it in no way can this trail beast be described as "basic." Like every other Heckler build kit, this bike comes with Santa Cruz's highest level CC carbon fiber. Complete with WTB rims, a RockShox Yari RC fork, and a SRAM 12-speed drivetrain and brake set, it's more than enough to start breaking new ground.

Heckler CC R Features

  • Fork: RockShox Yari RC, 160mm, 27.5"
  • Drivetrain: SRAM NX Eagle, 12spd
  • Rims: WTB ST i29 TCS 2.0 27.5"
  • Brakes: SRAM Guide RE

$7,399

Santa Cruz Heckler CC S

Heckler CC S Features

  • Shock: RockShox Super Deluxe Select+
  • Fork: FOX 36-E Float Performance, 160mm, 27.5"
  • Drivetrain: SRAM GX Eagle, 12spd
  • Rims: RaceFace ARC HD 30 27.5"
  • Brakes: SRAM Code R

$8,399

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Heckler CC S

The Heckler CC S offers a few upgrades for riders looking to add more performance. This build kit includes a RaceFace ARC wheelset, an upgraded shock and fork, plus the SRAM GX eagle drivetrain. If you're looking for the best electric trail bike under 5 figures, this is your model.

Santa Cruz Heckler CC X01
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Heckler CC X01

With the Heckler CC X01, Santa Cruz takes it up a notch. Most notably, the X01 model gets a big wheelset upgrade from the previous two kits, featuring the much sought-after Santa Cruz Reserve Carbon rims. The shock, fork, and drivetrain also get an upgrade with this model, putting the Heckler CC X01 in a class of its own.

Heckler CC X01 Features

  • Shock: RockShox Super Deluxe Ultimate
  • Fork: FOX 36-E Float Performance Elite, 160mm, 27.5"
  • Drivetrain: SRAM X01 Eagle, 12spd
  • Rims: Santa Cruz Reserve 30 V2 27.5" Carbon
  • Brakes: SRAM Code RSC

$10,599

Santa Cruz Heckler CC XX1

Heckler CC XX1 Features

  • Shock: RockShox Super Deluxe Ultimate
  • Fork: FOX 36-E Float Factory, 160mm, 27.5"
  • Drivetrain: SRAM XX1 Eagle AXS, 12spd
  • Rims: Santa Cruz Reserve 30 V2 27.5" Carbon
  • Brakes: SRAM Code RSC

$13,099

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Heckler CC XX1

The final build kit in the lineup is the Heckler CC XX1. Santa Cruz went all out with this model and spared no expense in order to create the best electric mountain bike on the market. Reserve carbon wheelset, check. SRAM XX1 EAGLE AXS electronic drivetrain, check. Top tier shock and e-bike specific suspension fork, check. Ultra-tough, crazy-capable, all-out mountain madness, check, check, check.

Heckler CC Geometry

S M L XL XXL
Reach 425mm 445mm 465mm 490mm 515mm
Stack 597mm 606mm 620mm 634mm 655mm
Head Tube Angle 65.5° 65.5° 65.5° 65.5° 65.5°
Seat Tube Length 390mm 405mm 430mm 460mm 500mm
Front Center 742mm 766mm 792mm 823mm 859mm
BB Height 346mm 346mm 346mm 346mm 346mm
BB Drop 13mm 13mm 13mm 13mm 13mm
Wheel Base 1187mm 1211mm 1237mm 1268mm 1304mm
Chainstay Length 445mm 445mm 445mm 445mm 445mm
Head Tube Length 110mm 120mm 135mm 150mm 175mm
Top Tube Length 572mm 595mm 619mm 650mm 682mm
Seat Tube Angle 76.2° 76.1° 76° 75.9° 75.4°
Standover 720mm 745mm 743mm 741mm 741m
Crank Length 165mm 165mm 165mm 165mm 165mm
Stem Length 50mm 50mm 50mm 50mm 50mm
Dropper Post 125mm 125-150mm 150-175mm 170-175mm 170-200mm

Video Transcription

Ian Hey everyone, Ian and Pancho with some of bicycles here alongside with Todd Ford from Santa Cruz bicycles, product engineer, and we are super excited and stoked, man very, very lucky to be here to talk about probably one of the biggest bike launches Santa Cruz has had,

Pancho if not the biggest.

Yeah, and if it's not obvious the downtube behind Todd is really thick and that's because there's a battery in there. Yeah. Alright, so Santa Cruz's first ebike the Santa Cruz heckler, how you doing Todd?

Todd I'm doing well. Thanks for coming up.

Ian Yeah, thanks for having us here producing the show. So we're going to do our best to give Todd a bunch of questions to give us the breakdown on the new heckler. Let's get started Pancho, you have a whole list of questions.

Pancho So Todd, how'd you get the Santa Cruz? What led you to designing their first e-bike?

Todd So I've been in the bike industry for quite a long time. Previous to Santa Cruz, I was at Specialized for about four and a half years working in product there too. And even before that, actually worked at Cannondale doing product. So, been in the realm for a little while. And yeah, had a little bit of a stint of doing some supply chain stuff for E-bikes when I was at Specialized and with my product background, you know,

Pancho somehow your first foray in the bikes for sure.

Todd Not, my first foray been been around him a bit. So then here before,

How long have you guys been working on this? I mean, let's get started go.

This bike pretty much, pretty much been working on this for about three years. About the first year was kind of just understanding e-bikes and deciding if we want to do one if we were going to do and what was going to be testing, ride testing, all that kind of stuff. We really formally built out the design brief started really prototyping about two years ago. So the first, first alloyed mule got built about two years ago, we rode it a bunch and then started into the process of making the carbon bike.

Pancho Awesome. So tell us a little more about that. Like, what were the design objectives for the bike specifically.

the big things that we really were focused on with this was making it really agile, really playful, maneuverable, and also really reliable, serviceable, kind of what you'd expect from a Santa Cruz bike. So, you know, we we rode a bunch of stuff and it felt like a lot of it was kinda sketchy and you know, kind of, not what we would put our name on. So we wanted to make sure that this bike was going to be you know, super reliable, something that you're comfortable with.

Yeah, you said like super playful. Is that lead that into the 29 or wheels not being on this bike? You guys want 27.5 instead was one of the first thing I noticed and a lot of companies are going 29 so you know, talk a little about that and how the decision was to go to 27.5 over the bigger wheel.

Todd Yeah, we tested both we, we prototyped and tested both wheel sizes, and we really liked the way the 27.5 felt mainly because of wheelbase. With a 27.5 wheel we could keep the chain stays relatively short there 445mm. And we really liked that that really helped with cornering, it really helped with making the bike really maneuverable and nimble. A lot of the bikes we rode had pretty long wheebases, and they just kind of felt like a sled that didn't really turn very well. So that's why we opted to go 27th of this awesome.

Ian I rode this bike extensively last week with that dealer for like three or four hours on the trails that I normally ride around. And I noticed that exact thing. It honestly felt like a slightly heavier Bronson that was extremely playful. So was it modeled more off of a bike already in your line was or you know, little brother to this guy?

Todd Yeah, it's the Bronson . Okay, so we when we first really started determining what we want, where we wanted to go, what our baseline would be, we started in Bronson. Mainly it's one of our most popular bikes. It's super fun bike, it's playful and it's really versatile too. So that's kind of where we started. Would like pivot points and kinematics and geo and kind of evolved it from there.

Ian So it makes sense.

Pancho So I'd imagine that mean designing an e-bike, there's probably a lot more things that goes into it than your regular pedal bike. So what were some of the biggest kind of obstacles you guys faced?

Todd Biggest obstacle was definitely packaging for a dragon. Dragon obviously is much bigger than a standard bottom bracket, and requires a little bit of finagling, especially with a lower link design. Since we do have a lower link there that's right above the drive unit makes it pretty hard to package all that together. And we weren't really willing to do any compromises to the kinematics or the suspension design. So it definitely took us a long time to really sort out where those pivots were going to be and how to make sure that it's going to ride the way we wanted it to ride.

Pancho Yeah, that makes a ton of sense. We're any big surprises you guys like didn't forecast you didn't foresee happening that you were like, Oh my god, I had no idea that we're going to deal with this. How do we fix it?

Todd I'm nothing that was like, super difficult aside from like, getting the pivots in the right spots. Okay. Honestly, the biggest surprise was just how well lower link works. With an e-bike we were pretty blown away What was it has to do with the center of gravity come in where the where the shock is and how how the shock operates. It just makes a really fun and playful bike and it kind of blew us away. And we even we built the first alloy prototype, we couldn't believe how well it was riding.

Pancho Yeah. Cool. So speaking of prototypes, how many were there? Were there 10,20, 30, 100? I mean, how long was the prototyping process for you guys?

Todd The process so we had one alloyed mule that we rode, and just beat the crap out of we rode that thing all over the world actually really beat on it. Once we got into the carbon mules I think we went through four or five revisions before we finally settled on the exact layout that we like.

Ian And you lay those up here?

Now those layups were done in overseas. Okay,yep, yeah. Just the allloy one was built here. Yeah,

Pancho that's how we started and there was one alloy mule?

Todd one Mule. Let's start. The cool thing with the LMU that we do is we actually have machine shock mounts so we can actually adjust the kinematics on the metal. So we we do 1.5 head teams so we can adjust it bangles, a lot of adjustments are done on the frame itself. And then once we're like, Alright, that's what we want to ride, then we then we kind of kick off the tooling for the carbon mule.

Pancho So we're going to the bike shop, one of the things we deal with a lot of people who are not ready for the bike yet are people who embrace the whole concept of having an e-bike. So I would imagine when designing a product like this, you have a customer in mind. So tell us a little bit about who this is for and what that customer looks like.

Todd To us as customers. Yeah, I think it's for people that are onboard and ready to go into the e-bike world. We really wanted this bike to be something that is for the high performance customer You know, this bike is made to be pretty aggressive trail bike, it's made to, like I said, Be really playful, really agile, but also like get out to even further trails to you know, it was actually pretty interesting when we started talking about this bike with people within the company and even outside the company. A lot of the people we talked to or discussed like Downey bill and the Alps and these places where there's like A ton of trail that not many people can get to. And you know, it really became this thing where like, man, if we could just get out further and ride for and it's like, this bike is the perfect animal for that. And get you up, do these massive rides and you've got, you know, power to get back home again.

Ian Yeah, and there's I mean, we all know the local riding that we do in our trails, and usually within the first 10 miles of the park. We're lucky that there's so much beyond that, that exactly. This opens us up to.

Todd Yeah, it was just actually really cool. We talked with the guys that you've expeditions it down a little bit, and they're really keen on this. They're they're really hyped up and they've got, you know, hundreds of miles of trail out there that never gets ridden. Pretty much everyone just sounds like the standard there. Yeah, I'm sure Yeah, exactly. But yeah, Greg, who runs Yuba, but he's he's got this amazing idea of, you know, huts out there so you can do battery swaps? Yeah. Really expanding the whole area? Yes. Really, really cool. We're excited. That's really great. Yeah.

Ian Yeah, exactly. So it wasn't always clear to at least at least, bike shops at Santa Cruz was ever going to embrace the e-bike market. Yeah. So what? What did it for you guys?

Todd Ah, it you know, it's really funny. Like, I think a lot of it was internal demand ROM was a big piece of it. But yeah, you know, three, four years ago there weren't a lot of people within the brand that really wanted to do an e-bike. Questions were coming obviously. Every time you walked into Sea Otter anywhere it was always the question. But it wasn't in within these walls. No one really was interested just yet. And then really Rob kind of took off with it. Yeah, he's a huge advocate for the bikes. He loves e-bikes and you know, for him, it's like, it's not about an easier ride. It's more about getting as many laps and more as you can. Yeah, so he, he really jumped on and jumped on us to really do something and you know, he's been a huge piece of this project from day one. Yeah, it's really funny when we first got the like, the carbon field test frames. Every time I went to go test ride it, it was out of the office because Rob had it.

Ian Yeah. Every single time it's like, Hey, man, where's the bike now? Rob's got it. Sweet. Yeah, I guess. All ride it next week.

So the ride I did on this was with Rob. Yeah, we only had one lap up there playing and it was nowhere doing too.

Let's get to the specifics. The button, the battery, the walk away. All right.

So, let's start with the drive system. So tell us about drive systems.

Todd So it's the Shimano e8000 system. It's the high performance the mountain bike system from Shimano, it's their top of the line. It's 250 watts 70 newton meters of torque, weighs 2.8 kilograms, pretty much the standard for for driving it's right now for the bikes. Yeah.

We liked it because it's super ... Supernatural feeling once you get on the pedals, you just feel assist. It's not jerky, it doesn't feel like it's lunging on you. It just feels kind of natural.

Ian And I mean, the step system has been around. I mean, at least four years that I know, right? Yeah, probably longer, but walk us through the battery itself. Like, I know it's it's basically impossible to predict how long the battery will last because there's so many variables, right, but what's the watt hours all that?

Todd cool? So it's the, it's the amount of e 35 batteries that we use. It's a fully integrated 504 watt hour battery. Depending on range, how you're riding and all that it can kind of vary quite a bit. They say optimal range you can get as about 60 miles. That would be pretty impressive to do. Yeah. For us riding this bike, we typically can get two and a half to three hours with pretty solid amount of climbing without any issue. Yeah. The cool thing with the step system, the display will actually tell you how much money You have while you're riding So, you know, you know whether or not you can get home or not. Yeah, pretty pretty easily.

Ian And the battery is a is a really easy unit to switch up. We did it on the trailer and I was right one little Yeah, it's like a four millimeter.

Todd So four mil hex, you just turn it clockwise to release it stop swaps out.

Ian and the battery itself weighs like around six pounds. Yep, that's right about six pounds and we'll have footage of it, I'm sure but it's pretty compact. Like it's not out of the question to carry one.

Todd No, it's super easy to carry. Our battery cover connects directly to it. So it's really easy to swap it in and out. We just did a big ride camp actually in Italy. And we are used to that.

But on that right camp, I had one of the evoc bags that has the integrated sleep for battery. Yeah, our battery fits perfectly inside of it. Yeah. You know, honestly, the whole right I barely even notice it's there. Yeah. And you know, to do a swap. It takes seven seconds.

Ian It's quite a bit less expensive than the other batteries out there. I know the Bosch one like the the exact model but they're better at 1000 This one's like $500 bucks

Todd I think it's 5% Yes, right. Yeah. So so pretty, pretty reasonable to have a second battery if you plan on doing big massive right? Yeah, for most people a 500 watt hour battery will get you plenty there. Yeah, day to day. Yeah, but if you do intend to do a big massive ride somewhere having a second battery isn't that hard to carry.

Ian Yeah. And one of the things that the bikes offer, at least me and I noticed is whenever I'm on a ride, it's a super limited window of time, right? Very your kid you're like, what's that trail? Right? Yeah, yeah, you could do that with any biking not suffer the consequences of this huge 2,000 foot climb Mount or whatever. Right. So yeah, and the ability to carry a battery as well. It's so easy to pop in and out. Okay. geometry, so it's a Bronson and more or less but and pretty closely get, you know, the main points BB Height, Seat Tube, Head tube and all that good stuff.

Todd So BB Height is funny on this one, obviously because the drive unit but it's essentially the same as a Bronson and the low BB setting, the head angle is 65 and a half seat angles 76 degrees chainstay length for 45 the reach is just about the same as a high tower. It's just actually five millimeters shorter per size? Yeah, yeah, so like a large high towers for 70 This one's for 65 reason we did that we actually brought the reach back a little bit since you do spend more time seated on this bike. So we just wanted to bring the cockpit back a little bit more make a little bit more comfortable when you're when you're seated.

Ian Yeah, I mean, he bikes kind of opened up that whole of aspect of climbing is way more important now or very Right, right. I like how the drive system assist you and when it assist you when it applies to power and all that stuff. So that has a huge, huge effect on how well the bike rides.

Todd that was a big learning piece actually was how to how to ride these Yeah, it's a bit different than a regular pedal. But yeah, you do spend more time seated, you spend more time spinning, the driving is more efficient at a certain cadence and typically a higher cadence. Yeah. So that was actually a pretty interesting learning from this. And we did a couple tweaks because of that. The reach like I said, another thing, since the BB is relatively low, and you do want to spin more, we run 165 cranks on all sizes. So it helps you spend a bit more and prevents pedal bikes. And you don't need that leverage. Exactly. Yeah. You know, you're if you're pedaling, you're blowing. Yeah.

Ian Yeah, yeah. Your life already. Yeah.

Todd And that's actually one reason we went with full Eagle groups on these two. We didn't see some of the company spec. 11 speed drive trains. Yeah, and it just didn't really make sense because at the other day, a higher cadence is better for you anyways, so having that 5o when you're on a big climb or anything actually helps you and your bike be more efficient.

Ian Yeah. Yeah. Okay, let's get into the e8000 system. So there's there's four levels. Is that correct? Or three for this for this level of assist?

Todd Oh, yeah. So there's three levels. There's three modes, eco, trail, and boost mode. There's also a walk mode too ... a walk so I'm checking this for and then it's adjustable.

Yes, right. Yeah, yeah. So you can use the YouTube app, or you can go on the YouTube software on like a laptop, and you can actually adjust the three modes give you like a high, medium, low setting for each one. Got it. So you can kind of customize it to they also have a dynamic setting, which essentially, as you're pedaling, it'll kind of read what you're doing and can give you assist based on that. So interesting. You can do it either way. Oh, yeah,

Ian that's very cool. And then walk us through so there's there's the display on the right side, right, which is typically next to the rear derailleur shifter, and then the control unit which is to control you the level assist. Yeah, the modes when the modes Yeah, excuse me, on the left side of the handlebar, it's really small, like everything is very concise and I mean, nothing is bigger than a shifter or a drop, you know? So it was hard to like, you know, real estate on the handlebar was not an issue at all.

Todd Yeah, yeah. Which is really important. Yeah. You know, there's too much stuff on handlebars already correct. So we didn't want to add a bunch of other stuff. And some of the other systems out there have like massive displays. Yeah. Huge remotes and it just didn't feel like in mountain bike at that point. Yeah. So that's why we really like the Shimano system, the mode switch is super compact for just a small di two wire. We did our own handlebar that has internal routing. So the wire goes right through the bar to the display. That's right place. It's right next to the stem behind the bar. It's not super huge and proud on top of it. Yeah. Yeah. So it's just a really clean system. And the cool thing with Shimano, if you wanted to, you could run the system without the mode switch or the display and burn. There's a small little junction piece that they make that is Bluetooth enabled, you can run that instead, integrates with a Garmin. So you could have all the same functionality, but with nothing on the bars.

Ian Garmin on your Yeah, exactly. Walk us through how the drive unit or battery specifically is mounted and understood. It's a little different, or there's there's some differences there compared to some other bikes.

Todd Um, yeah. So the drive unit itself, it's just six bolts right into the frame itself. Really cool thing is it is full carbon. Yeah, it's it's threaded in metal inserts, but it's all carbon at the drive unit area. And then for the connections, it's just one power cable from the battery into the drive unit, one di2 wire that comes from the power button, and one di2 wire that comes from the speed sensor in the back. So as far as the interface for the driving, it's actually pretty simple. Yeah. And then it's just two battery mounts that are mounted into the frame, and then the battery just slides into that essentially. Yeah, so the same thing with those battery mounts. They're two little bonded pieces of metal that go into the frame, but everything else is carbon,

Ian which which I understand is a lot less metal than some of the other brands that are out there. Sure. Yeah,

Todd yeah. We cracked into a couple frames and you know, a lot of a lot of companies use metal pieces metal forgings for the area around the drive unit and for the batteries. Yeah. Which is good. I mean, it's robust that way, but you know, bonding metal to carbon has its own issues, whereas with us doing a full carbon frame like this ensures the layup is the same across the board. The fibers are all lined the same way. So we can make this frame nice and stiff and also keep the weight pretty low too. Yeah.

Ian So what's the bike weigh? Yeah. Yeah, Surprise.

Todd Surprise we got this far with asking that!

Todd the bikes are so the four different spec levels they all sit right around 46 pounds 47 for the market. So relatively lightweight for what's out there. Yeah. The xx one axis bike. I think that one actually will be in the 45 range. I haven't officially weighed it yet. We just do like a calculated way track and it was like she is that just over 46.

Ian I think it'll be in the 45 range. We put one on the scale as it was right there. Yeah.

Todd Good to know. Good to now.

Pancho You already know.

Ian Nailed it though. Let's go. Let's walk through the line. So there's this color, which is a very classy

Todd Yellow Jacket. Yeah.

Ian Yellow Jacket. There's also black one. Yeah. name for the black?

Todd Blackout.

Ian Good.

Todd Appreciate that. But so yeah, the black ones actually the same color that mega tower came in last year. Kind of that greenish black. Yeah. It was a matte finish on that bike. It's gloss on this one. Yeah. And then yeah, this is the yellow jacket, which essentially is the same color as a Bronson one, when it first came out got a nickel.

Ian And sizes?

Todd We go small all the way to double XL. Since it's the only one in the line, we wanted to make sure we covered the largest size range we could. So not typical for us to do a double XL and 27 five but for this bike, we did it. Yeah.

Ian And then there's four builds. I understand

Four builds. Yeah, exactly. All four builds are on the same frame. It's a carbon cc frame across the board, front triangle. Swing I'm even the battery covers all cc carbon in the four kits are R kit, S kit, X-01 reserve and XX1 Reserve. So R kit is essentially the same style of R kit that you would find on a Bronson. It's an NX Eagle group. All that kind of stuff. Yeah, escape. So on. We did do a custom reserve wheel set for both the next x one through the down over in Right. Yeah. So yeah, we launched the reserve d h 27. Five and we'll set up two weeks ago. Yeah. Pretty much to set up for this. We run the reserve dh 27.5 rear rim on this, which is a little bit thicker. It's a 31 mil ID 32 hole little bit stiffer. So we run that in the rear and the front wheel is still reserved

The 30 28 Oh, yeah. And you said it I just want to make sure it's clear. So the X-01 and XX1 come with carbon wheels? Yes to included in the price. Yeah. Correct. Right. In the stock.

Todd Yeah, we wanted to keep the line super clean. So we didn't Reserve options we just are offering it with reserved for those to go we will have that wheel set aftermarket available to you. So if you did buy an R kit or an S kit and you want to upgrade to the reserve, we'll set you can totally do it. Awesome.

Ian And Pancho a you know the prices, right? I don't know the prices

Todd are closed $7499 for the AR Kit $8399 for the S kit.

And something was $10,599 four x one and $13,099

Ian for the x axis. Awesome. We'll definitely,

Todd Yeah, we'll take those wheels. So it's a dT 350 hub on the x one reserves this bike right here. And an i nine hydro hub on the x x one axis full awesome. Full boogy build.

Ian Yeah, that's one of those things. Once you read those bills. It's like Yeah, awesome. Let's we wanted to touch on this before we wanted to kind of give some history to the hacker named hacker. He means a lot to Santa Cruz does it was

Todd it's kind of fun to put it on this bike.

Ian Yeah. Tell us a bit about that.

So heckler, honestly, if you look back in the history of Santa Cruz, the heckler was a pretty, pretty bold bike. When he came out. It was kind of one of the first like, really aggressive trail bikes in the line and kind of really, you know, made some big moves were both the brand and for mountain bikes in general. And so we thought there's no better name for you know, something that hopefully is a big change to for us, so we kind of thought bringing heckler back would be a cool cool move.

Yeah, it be. Everyone that I've told it about is happy to hear that name and come Yeah,

Pancho when you say that like the first time I saw the press kit that it was called Heckler. I laughed a lot and I was like, Not that it was a bad thing but why I was stoked the name choices Heckler into that and just like so ironic.

Todd Yeah, it sets itself up. Yeah.

Ian Yeah, exactly. Yeah. We know we know what's gonna. What components on this bike or a bike specific.

Todd The main ones so suspension lies the fork. So we run Fox forks, most of the builds, which are an E tuned fork, basically, Fox does a slightly different tune and a little bit stiffer chassis for those forks. The care that's on the market, it's not technically tuned that way. Rockshox doesn't do a different tune between pedal bikes and e-bikes. They just say whether or not it's compatible. So the Yari RC that's on the Ark is essentially the same that's on like a Nomad. The wheelset obviously is a bit bit e-bike specific just because we do run the reserve Dh 27.5 room on the back, you know, the DI t bar, and that's pretty much it. Yeah, we'll say the same.

Ian And you guys have a history. This which makes your bikes off the shelf so attractive is that the bike is ready to ride it doesn't it doesn't come with one pound tires that are going to compromise right and it's ready to go with nice was it dhr tires off the shelf at still 45 and a half pounds right?

Todd Yeah, yeah, that's the big thing with this bike we wanted to make sure that we weren't compromising on a the spec. If you do run lightweight tires on these bikes, it makes the rear end squirm like crazy and it just just doesn't ride very well and you're probably going to get a flat tire so we run echo plus casing on these two six. Just a have a nice firm sidewall makes the bike handles super well. Yeah, less prone to getting flats. Yeah, same thing with like the brakes. We run dh code, code brakes on these bikes, 200 mil rotors front and rear. Just really gives you all that good braking performance that you would want and no compromise in there.

Ian Yeah. And you can go up to two eight. Is that right on the tire?

Todd You can Yeah, so the frame it's up to a 2.8

Ian Yeah, great. Todd, I really appreciate your time. I think we've covered it all. We're good to go. You did a killer job. You

Todd gotta Yeah. Awesome. Well, again, appreciate you guys coming in and talking about. Thanks, Dennis. Really appreciate

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